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China: Where are you, LES blood donors?
01 Jun 2008 00:26:34 GMT
Written by: Global Voices
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After the frightful calamity of Sichuan earthquake, people from all walks of life in China are attending various charitable activities to help those victims, however, lesbians, a special community which is unwelcome to the Chinese traditional mainstream, are left in a predicament when they try to contribute as blood donors.

The blog of les+, a voluntary Lesbian magazine, published an article titled by Where are you, LES blood donors? to criticize the ban on blood from lesbians:

“We want to donate blood”

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有很多去献血的拉拉反映,她们看到献血规定中指明,同性恋者不许献血。有些人表明了自己的同性恋身份后,被血站管理人å'˜æ‹'绝了献血的义举(其中还有人是稀有的RH阴性血),理ç"±æ˜¯åŒæ€§æ‹æ˜¯æ˜"感æŸ"艾滋ç-…的高危人群。

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但是在因不安全的性行为导致的不安全血液方面,女同å¿-不æ¯"任何一个群ä½"更高危,ç"šè‡³æœ‰ç "究数据表明女女性行为是较为低危的(较其她人群而言),这适ç"¨äºŽæ‰€æœ‰ç›¸å…³çš„æ€§ä¼ æŸ"ç–¾ç-…,包括艾滋ç-…å'Œä¹™è‚ã€‚

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在国难æ-¶æœŸï¼Œäººäººéƒ½æƒ³è´¡çŒ®è‡ªå·±çš„一份力量,帮助她人,挽æ•'ç"Ÿå'½ã€‚有关不合理的规定阻止了同性恋者献血的义举,凉了大家æ•'灾的心。拉拉们希望积极参与到æŠ-震æ•'灾的行动中去,请不要æ‹'绝æˆ'们的一è…"热血!

229;¿ƒã€‚拉拉们希望积极参与到æŠ-震æ•'灾的行动中去,请不要æ‹'绝æˆ'们的一è…"热血!

åŒ-京女同小组同语目前正在æ"¶é›†æ‹‰æ‹‰çŒ®è¡€çš„æ•…事,并计åˆ'å'有关部é-¨å'¼åä¿®æ"¹çŒ®è¡€è§„定。献过血的拉拉,请å'邮件到tongyu.org@gmail.com ,å'Šè¯‰æˆ'们你的献血经历。让æˆ'们大家一起携手,消除社会对同性恋的歧视,帮助他人,帮助自己!

After Wenchuan was hit by an 8 magnitude earthquake, the whole nation has been in deep sorrow. People all over China actively donate either money or blood, trying to express their concern. In the homosexual community, we also make donations for the earthquake-stricken area, and many of us went to donate blood without any hesitation, in hope of saving more lives of the victims.
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A lot of LESs find out the regulations of blood donation have specified the homosexual people are prohibited from donating blood. The blood stations rejected some LESs' offer when they indicated their sexual orientation (even some of them have the rare RH-negative blood), on the ground that the homosexual is the high-risk group of AIDS.
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However, as to the contaminated blood transmitted by unprotected sex, lesbians are not more dangerous than any other groups. A study applying to all the sexually transmitted diseases (STD), including AIDS and Hepatitis B, showed that sex between women is comparatively low-risky (compared to other groups).
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During the national calamity, everyone is trying to contribute something to help the victims and save lives, but the unreasonable regulations have prevented altruistic act of the homosexual and disappointed all of us. LESs long to take an active part in the disaster relief, so please don't turn down our earnest donations.
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Tongyu, a lesbian association in Beijing, is collecting the blood donation stories of LESs, and going to call for an amendment of blood donation rules. LESs who have donated blood please send email to tongyu.org@gmail.com , telling us your experience of donation. Let's hold on together to eliminate the homophobia and discrimination based on sexual orientation; help others and help ourselves!
Comments in les+'s blog:

作者:诱æƒ'ä½  å'布于:2008-05-28 06:40:50
不é"™

Author: Tempt You Posted on: 2008-05-28 06:40:50
Not bad

作者:Chelsea å'布于:2008-05-28 15:12:36

æˆ'不是医学ä¸"业人士,但是æˆ'想,如果的确存在同å¿-基因的话,那这种规定就是合理的。

不过如果按这种逻è¾'推理下去……有暴力基因的、变异基因的,都更加不符合献血条件。

看他们觉å¾-什么重要了。活下去重要,还是维持自身基因的“纯正性”重要。

Author:Chelsea Posted on:2008-05-28 15:12:36
I'm not a medical profession, but I think once the homosexual genes do exist, such regulations should be reasonable.
However, according to that logic…people with violent or mutant genes won't qualify for the standards of blood donation, either.
It all depends on the victims of the earthquake. What's more important to them, to live on or to maintain the “purity” of their genes?

作者:游客 å'布于:2008-05-31 23:45:09

è¿'æ-¥åŒäº‹çŒ®è¡€ï¼Œéœ€å¡«ä¸€å †è°ƒæŸ¥é-®å·ï¼Œæˆ'也看到相关é-®é¢˜ã€‚

其中一条是:是否有吸æ¯'、同性恋、艾滋ç-…史。

它们将这三者æ"¾åœ¨ä¸€èµ·ï¼Œå‡ºå'点就是é"™è¯¯åœ°è®¤ä¸ºè¿™ä¸‰è€…是相关的。

拉拉的血其实æ¯"异性恋的血更安全些。

Author:Guest Posted on:2008-05-31 23:45:09
I have seen the related problems after my colleague who recently went to donate blood was asked to complete a pile of questionnaires.
One of the questions is: whether has drug addiction, homosexual history or AIDS history.
They put such three items together, holding a wrong point that they are related with each other.
In fact, the blood of LESs is safer than those heterosexual.
Being listed with other communicable diseases like AIDS and leprosy, all “the homosexual and people who have multiple sexual partners” are banned from donating blood, according to China's health standards for blood donors (《献血者健康检查标准》) .

The questionnaire of blood donation in Beijing Xidan in 2008

A thread in Tianya fully quoted les+'s article that protests regulations against lesbian donors. Netizens, including many LESs, showed their views and experience of blood donations there:

作者:不能å'Šè¯‰ä½ 11 å'布于:2008-5-28 13:59:12
不会吧,献血的 æ-¶å€™ï¼Œå'Šè¯‰äººå®¶ï¼Œæ˜¯åŒæ€§æ‹å¹²ä»€ä¹ˆï¼Ÿ

医院里面难é"对血,也是拿来就ç"¨ï¼Ÿä¸è¿›è¡ŒåŸºæœ¬æ£€æµ‹çš„?那异性恋的血液有é-®é¢˜ä¸æ˜¯åŒæ ·æ²¡æœ‰æ£€æµ‹çš„嘛?

不会吧~~~~~~太恐怖了

Author: Can't Tell You 11 Posted on:2008-5-28 13:59:12
Oh, no. Why did you tell others you are homosexual while donating blood?
Doesn't the hospital make any blood test before using it? Does that mean the unclean blood from the heterosexual is also used without any test?
No way~~~~~~it's too horrible.

作者:黄泉路上遛ç‹-  å'布于:2008-5-28 14:10:29 

有人鲜的是血小板,å½"æ-¶æˆ'只顾着眼花了,没注意这个细节,不过那个同性恋史是é'ˆå¯¹GAY的吧?

Author: Walking the Dog on Huangquan Road Posted on:2008-5-28 14:10:29
Someone only donated platelet. I was just dizzy at that time and didn't notice such regulations, but the question about the homosexual history must only aim at GAY, right?

作者:沉默的小小猪 å'布于:2008-5-28 14:49:29 

æˆ'去献啦,会让你填个表格,里面有多个选项,其中一个就是:是否有过同性恋史…

填表格的话就æ- è§†é‚£ä¸€æ¡å¥½äº†

只要知é"自己身心健康,æ- å„种疾ç-…及é-ä¼ ç-…就好

大家有é'±å‡ºé'±ï¼Œæœ‰è¡€å‡ºè¡€ï¼Œæœ‰åŠ›å‡ºåŠ›å"‡

Author:Silent piggy Posted on: 2008-5-28 14:49:29
I have donated. They would ask you to complete a questionnaire in which one of the items is: whether has homosexual history…
Just ignore it when you fill the form.
It's OK as long as you are healthy and don't have other diseases or hereditary diseases.
Let those with money contribute money, those with blood contribute blood, and those with strength contribute strength.

作者:åº"该有个马ç"²äº†ã€€ å'布于:2008-5-28 18:07:13 
é'ˆå¯¹GAY的。

å½"年鲜血看到那条,心里面很å†'火

Author:Should Have a Waistcoat Posted on:2008-5-28 18:07:13
It must aim at GAY.
When I went to donate blood, I was extremely annoyed at that ban.

作者:xxxian å'布于:2008-5-28 20:27:55 

目前的献血规定是é'ˆå¯¹æ‰€æœ‰åŒæ€§æ‹è€…,包括女同性恋。

如果拉拉去献血,并在填表的æ-¶å€™è¯´æ˜Žè‡ªå·±æ˜¯åŒæ€§æ‹ï¼Œä¹Ÿä¼šè¢«æ‹'绝 - æˆ'们听到不å°'这样的例子!

Author: xxxian Posted on:2008-5-28 20:27:55
Now the restriction of blood donation is aimed at all the homosexual, including lesbians.
If a les goes to donate blood, and shows her sexual orientation, she will be also turned down-we have heard a number of similar examples!

作者:xxxian å'布于:2008-5-30 9:06:41

这个规定明显不合理

如果能够å'¼åæœ‰å…³å«ç"Ÿéƒ¨é-¨æ"¹å˜è¿™ä¸ªè§„定

能大大消除社会对同性恋的偏见å'Œæ­§è§†

希望这里的版主能æ"¯æŒä¸€ä¸‹ï¼Œè°¢è°¢ :)

Author:xxxian Posted on:2008-5-30 9:06:41
Such regulations are obviously unreasonable.
If we can call for the public health department to change the regulations, the social discrimination and prejudice on the homosexual will be greatly eased.
Hope the webmaster here can support it. Thanks:)

作者:豆子的挪挪 å'布于:2008-5-30 15:34:41 

æˆ'四次献血都是在2004年以前,æˆ'没有注意这个,但是四次献血都很顺利

Author:The Bean's Nana Posted on:2008-5-30 15:34:41
I donated blood for four times before 2004. I didn't notice the regulations then and everything was going well.
作者:作客人ç"Ÿã€€ å'布于:2008-5-30 18:02:10 

æˆ'也献过四次了,一年一次,都看到这个条例了,不过æˆ'自信自己很健康。而ä¸"血液中心每次都会å'短信给æˆ',å'ŠçŸ¥æˆ'的血液检验ç»"果很正常,这些短信æˆ'都留着。留的ç»"果也许是赌æ°",或者是原谅他们的æ- çŸ¥ã€‚æˆ'们的血都是红的。原谅这些世人吧。表达自己的心,让别人说去吧。

229;¾ˆæ­£å¸¸ï¼Œè¿™äº›çŸ­ä¿¡æˆ'都留着。留的ç»"果也许是赌æ°",或者是原谅他们的æ- çŸ¥ã€‚æˆ'们的血都是红的。原谅这些世人吧。表达自己的心,让别人说去吧。

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Author:A Guest of Life Posted on:2008-5-30 18:02:10 
I have also donated four times, once a year. I saw the regulations every time, but I'm sure I am very healthy. Besides, the blood center would always send me a message to tell that my blood examination was very normal. I have kept all the messages, which may make me angry or forgive their ignorance. We all have the same red blood. Please forgive those common people. Take its own way and leave others reviewing.

作者:共老 å'布于:2008-5-30 19:00:57 
明显的歧视条款!!!!!!!

同å¿-们的地位很低啊.

虽然说医学上æ-©å°±æ‰¿è®¤åŒæ€§æ‹ä¸æ˜¯å¿ƒç†ç–¾ç-…,

但你随便到图书馆找几本心理方面的书来看看,

赫然的标明这一类疾ç-…,还å'Šè¯‰ä½ å¾ˆå¤šæ²»ç–-方法.
没ç-…也给你整出ç-…来.

不要以为最è¿'几年的版本没有了,多的是.

Author:Old Gong Posted on:2008-5-30 19:00:57
That's obviously discriminative clause!!!!!!!
The general status of homosexual is very low.
Although the medical circle has acknowledged homosexuality is not mental disease for a long time,
you can easily find a couple of psychological books from library,
in which homosexuality is clearly classified as disease with many different therapies.
They just create disease for healthy people.
Don't even think about it that such books are disappearing. There are a lot.

作者:老婆的黏豆包 回复æ-¥æœŸï¼š2008-5-30 21:29:24 
æˆ'5月23æ-¥åŽ»çŒ®çš„è¡€ã€‚

æˆ'承认æˆ'æ''谎了,æˆ'是拉拉,æˆ'有纹身,而ä¸"好像å½"天老朋友还来了(献血æ-¶æ²¡æ¥ï¼‰ã€‚

不过5月28æ-¥ï¼Œæˆ'æ"¶åˆ°å¦‚下短信:“感谢您捐血æ•'人!您5月23æ-¥çŒ®è¡€æ£€æµ‹åˆæ ¼ï¼Œæ¬¢è¿Ž2008å¹´11月23æ-¥åŽå†æ¬¡å¥‰çŒ®çˆ±å¿ƒï¼62758257上海市血液中心【上海献血ã€'
。。。。。。

Author:Wife's sticky Doubao Posted on:2008-5-30 21:29:24
I went to donate blood on May 23.
I admit I lied. I am les and I have tattoos. I was having my period that day (later than the donation).
But on May 28, I received a message as follows: “Thank you for your contribution! Your blood donated on May 23 has passed the inspection. We welcome you to contribute again after November 28, 2008! 62758257 Shanghai Blood Center【Shanghai Blood Donationsã€'”

作者:走出巫山的äº' å'布于:2008-5-31 3:26:54 

他不让去献,æˆ'就不去献了,免å¾-惹麻烦。虽然æˆ'是同,其实æˆ'从来都没有乱性,要说æˆ'的血液带ç-…æ¯'的风险其实æ¯"好多异性恋者低很多,国家这样的规定其实也没ç"¨,献血的æ-¶å€™è°çŸ¥é"谁是同性恋者å'¢,要真对ç"¨è¡€çš„ç-…人负责的话,æˆ'想还是åº"该进行严格的检测。这其实是歧视同性恋者的一个规定。

53;样的规定其实也没ç"¨,献血的æ-¶å€™è°çŸ¥é"谁是同性恋者å'¢,要真对ç"¨è¡€çš„ç-…人负责的话,æˆ'想还是åº"该进行严格的检测。这其实是歧视同性恋者的一个规定。

67;恋者的一个规定。

Author:Cloud Walking out of Wu Mountain Posted on:2008-5-31 3:26:54 

If he doesn't want me to donate, I won't do. I don't want to make troubles. Although I'm homosexual, I never have promiscuous sexual acts. As for the risk of contaminated blood I am actually much safer than many heterosexual people. Such clause made by the authorities is useless. Who can tell the homosexual from the heterosexual during the blood donating? The safety of blood users can't be guaranteed unless a strict verification is conducted. So the clause is nothing more than a discrimination against the homosexual.

作者:雨水之恋y å'布于:2008-5-31 7:11:17 

刚来这里做å¿-愿者的第二天因外援血浆没到,æˆ'们几个就匆忙献血,医ç"Ÿåšäº†ç®€å•血检就直接ç"¨æ³¨å°„器抽了,血袋也没有,更别提填表了,所以还不知é"拉拉不能献血的规定,即使有也是不合理的,拉拉一样爱国,一样有é¢-赤子心,一样有人权,平什么å-歧视?

表了,所以还不知é"拉拉不能献血的规定,即使有也是不合理的,拉拉一样爱国,一样有é¢-赤子心,一样有人权,平什么å-歧视?

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Author:The Love of Rainwater y Posted on:2008-5-31 7:11:17
On the second day when we were working as volunteers, the plasma aid didn't come in time, so we went to donate blood immediately. After a simple test, the doctor just directly drew our blood with injector. There were even no blood bags, let alone a questionnaire. So I didn't know whether there's such a clause that prohibits LESs from donating blood. If it does exist, it should be unreasonable. LESs with human rights like us are also patriotic and innocent. Why should they face such discrimination?
A post in Netease BBS also quoted and introduced the article of les+'s blog. Some netizens expressed their negative feelings of homosexuality and different views on LES blood donations:

作者:游客 å'布于:2008-05-30 11:13:58

很奇怪。ç‚'作??

æˆ'没献血过,所以不太清楚……

献血的æ-¶å€™ä¼šé-®æ€§å–å'么……

ç"·åŒæ€§æ‹å¾-爱滋的æ¯"例是æ¯"异性恋要高……

å› æ­¤æ- è¾œç‰µæ‰¯åˆ°å¥³åŒæ€§æ‹ä¹Ÿæ˜¯æ¯"较å€'霉的事情……

Author:Guest Posted on:2008-05-30 11:13:58
It's weird. A hype??
I have never donated blood, so I know little about it…
Will people be asked about their sexual orientation when they donate blood…
The gays are more at risk for the infection that causes AIDS than the heterosexual…
It's unlucky that the clause involves the innocent lesbians.
作者:游客 å'布于:2008-05-30 11:52:12

正视é-®é¢˜ï¼Œä¸åº"该激动,为了大家的安全,有权利æ‹'绝不安全因数,这是歧视å-?同性恋é-®é¢˜å€¼å¾-深思。

Author:Guest Posted on:2008-05-30 11:52:12
We should squarely face the question, but not present impulsion. For people's safety, we have rights to reject insecure factors. Can you call it discrimination? The homosexual is an issue that deserves a deep consideration.
作者:ziyue44 å'表于:2008-05-30 14:09:26

个人观点:只要法律没有禁止,那么人家同性恋,那是他(她)们的自ç"±ï¼Œè°ä¹Ÿæ- æƒå¹²æ¶‰ã€‚站在æ-è§‚者的è§'度上看,人家同性变,与你有关系å-?防碍你了å-?æ-¢ç„¶æ²¡äººï¼Œé‚£åˆå‡­ä»€ä¹ˆåŽ»å¹²æ¶‰åˆ«äººçš„ç§äººè¡Œä¸ºã€‚

你有关系å-?防碍你了å-?æ-¢ç„¶æ²¡äººï¼Œé‚£åˆå‡­ä»€ä¹ˆåŽ»å¹²æ¶‰åˆ«äººçš„ç§äººè¡Œä¸ºã€‚

Author:ziyue44 Posted on:2008-05-30 14:09:26
Personal opinion: as long as homosexuality is not forbidden by the law, the gays and lesbians absolutely have rights to live in their own way; it's their freedom and no one has the right to interfere in their life. From the other view, do the homosexual have anything to do with you?Do they bother you? If not, why do you meddle in others' affairs?
作者:lunlun-1988 å'布于:2008-05-30 14:32:02

爱国是可以的,但为了安全起见,这样的措施是åº"该的,不是歧视,希望å½"事人åº"理解这é-®é¢˜ï¼æˆ'虽不是ä¸"业学医的,但æˆ'也一直在选修医学,æˆ'知é"这是个世界é-®é¢˜ï¼Œä¸æ˜¯ä»…中国才有的!望你们先查å"ˆç›¸å…³èµ„æ–™å'Œäº†è§£æ"¿ç­–后,再做相关事情,还有多党å'Œæ"¿åºœçš„工作欲与æ"¯æŒï¼Œæˆ'在此仅代表æˆ'个人先å'你们表示感谢,感谢你们的爱心

37;修医学,æˆ'知é"这是个世界é-®é¢˜ï¼Œä¸æ˜¯ä»…中国才有的!望你们先查å"ˆç›¸å…³èµ„æ–™å'Œäº†è§£æ"¿ç­–后,再做相关事情,还有多党å'Œæ"¿åºœçš„工作欲与æ"¯æŒï¼Œæˆ'在此仅代表æˆ'个人先å'你们表示感谢,感谢你们的爱心

;与æ"¯æŒï¼Œæˆ'在此仅代表æˆ'个人先å'你们表示感谢,感谢你们的爱心

Author: lunlun-1988 Posted on:2008-05-30 14:32:02
Your patriotism is OK, but to be on the safe side, such regulations are reasonable; it's not discrimination, so the persons involved should understand it! I'm not a medical major, but I have been studying medical science as my elective course. I know it's not only China that is faced with such problems, but the whole world! Hope you can firstly look for some relevant information and policies, and then decide what to do next, and don't forget to give more support to the Party and government. Here on behalf of myself, I personally appreciate you and your contribution.
作者:游客 å'表于:2008-05-30 14:46:16

æˆ'去献过N次血了?怎么就没看到你å'的那些规定å'¢?

ç‚'作的话麻烦你看以下现在是什么æ-¶å€™!

国难啊!!!!你要是有点爱心的话把你的这个æ-¶é-´æ"¾åœ¨å®£ä¼ ä¸Šé¢çš„话也可以为灾区人æ°'做出很大的贡献了啊!!

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Author:Guest Posted on:2008-05-30 14:46:16
I have went to donate blood for N times. Why didn't I see the regulations you mentioned?
If you just want to publicize yourselves, please watch the time!
National calamity!!!! If you are really compassionate, you should have made use of your advertising time to contribute more for the people in the disaster area!!
Can we just talk about the issue of homosexuality later??????????????????
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