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China and Hong Kong: Views on Gaza Conflicts
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After the first intense air strikes in the Gaza Strip at the end of 2008, Israel continues the attacks on the densely populated Gaza in 2009 and it is expected to cost more Palestinian lives. While there are mass demonstrations against Israel’s military actions in London, Paris, Berlin, Athens and several Muslim countries, what are the reactions in Hong Kong and China to this humanitarian crisis? Will peace come?Jackhomme, a Hong Kong blogger is rather cynical towards the situation and believes that we can do nothing to stop the current Gaza conflicts.
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War is not a new matter and nobody can guarantee there will be peace tomorrow. We can comfortably sit far away from the battlefield and make our daily choices, like to have
what kind of breakfast, or whether to watch a movie or go to pub after work. Such kind of choice is a luxury to the civilians in war as they even do not have the basic human rights and dignity. Life
is like that. We can only watch from the outside; read the death tolls on the newspapers as entertainment and write a sophisticated blogpost on warfare. We have no ability to change the fact that a
minority of people mess up the world and expect the whole of people to be buried with them.
CodeBlue, another Hong Kong blogger, also feels that it is too native to believe that the conflicts between
Israel and Palestine can come to an end. 外人無論怎樣åšå'Œäº‹ä½¬, 也ä¸èƒ½å®Œå…¨äº†è§£ä»–å€'之é–"çš„æ»çµ, 更何æ³åˆæœ‰èª°èƒ½ç™¾åˆ†ç™¾å¯ä»¥é 計以巴何時有永久åœæ¢è¡çªçš„一天å'¢? 世界å'Œå¹³? 這種想法是å¦éŽæ–¼å¤©çœŸ?
Outsider peace makers can never fully understand the dead knot (between Israel and Palestine) . So who can predict when will the conflict between Israel and Palestine comes to
an end and peace to the world? Isn't such thought too native?
Anti war protests and petitionsNevertheless, some disagree to stand aside and watch. Hoidick started
translating reports on the situation in Gaza at inmediahk.net and stirred up some discussions, in which fc said:A lot of people feel that the Middle East is so far away that it's not relevant. The fact is everything in this world is related. Think of it this way: For every person killed in this Gaza attack, probably 100 terrorists were born. The net result is that the whole world (including Israel itself) has become more unstable, and there's a much increased risk of another 9/11. What the current Israeli and American administrations refuse to accept is that military force simply DOESN'T WORK.In the facebook, a Hong Kong resident, Hong Wilson, creates a group to campaign against war in the Gaza strips on and there are 426 members up to 6 Jan 2009. They are planning to collect online petition to the Consulate General of Israel in Hong Kong and Macau. Members of the group suggested other means to express anger towards the Israeli military actions, including hanging a Palestinian scarf outside the window and deleting all the Israeli friends on their facebook accounts. Cheuck Hang suggests to demonstrate at the Consulate General of Israel in Hong Kong.
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I think Hong Kong people should at least organize a demonstration to the Consulate General of Israel. I have seen Leung Kwok-hung (a social activist) visited the Admiralty
Center to protest in the past on Youtube but there were only a very few people. Hope this can arouse Hong Kong people’ attention to the problem (The Gaza conflict).
Apart
from joint signature petitions against the war in Taiwan and Hong Kong, a number of demonstrations against
the war have happened this week at the Israeli Consulate General in Hong Kong and more to come in the weekend. Tibet and Gaza, China and Israel scenario While many in
Hong Kong and Taiwan condemn Israel for invading Gaza and killing of civilians, the position in Mainland China is rather ambivalent. Most of the articles are speculations on the reason behind the
military action. Mengshaosan criticizes Western government's double standard in the Israel military action: åªæœ‰ç¾Žå›½å'Œè‹±å›½ä¸Žå›½é™…社会作出了大相径åºçš„åæ˜ ï¼Œéƒ½æ‹'ç»äº†å'¼å以色åˆ-åœæ¢å¯¹åŠ 沙地带的æ¦åŠ›è¡ŒåŠ¨ï¼Œé‚£ä¸ªè‡ªä»¥ä¸ºæ˜¯ä¸–界之王的“è¨ç‹-屎”（è¨ç§'奇）å'Œé‚£äº›æ‰€è°"的人æƒæ–-士也都é-上了他们的ç‹-嘴。å"ˆå"ˆï¼Œæƒ³æƒ³çœŸæ˜¯å¥½ç¬'，想å½"åˆï¼Œåœ¨3月14æ-¥çš„西è-骚乱事件之åŽï¼Œé‚£äº›æ‰€è°"çš„æ–-å£«ä»¬çº·çº·å¼ å¼€é‚£å¼ ç‹-嘴，对ä¸å›½æ"¿åºœçš„æ£å½"è¡Œä¸ºå¼ºåŠ è°´è´£ï¼Œç»™ä¸å›½å†›äººå¼ºåŠ 戴上了“镇压â€çš„帽å。一æ-¶é-´ï¼Œåœ¨è¥¿æ–¹äººçš„眼ä¸ï¼Œä¸å›½æˆäº†ä¸€ä¸ªåæ¶ä¸èµ¦çš„国家。然而，好ç¬'的是，在今天，犹太人空è¢äº†åŠ 沙，çŸçŸçš„三天内，三百多åæ- 辜的平æ°'æˆäº†æˆ˜ä¹±ä¸çš„亡é‚ã€‚ä½†æ˜¯é‚£å‡ å¼ ç‹-嘴å´é-上了，而ä¸"，还é-å¾-那么的严实。
Only the U.S and U.K governments' reaction were different from the international society. They refused to urge Israel government to seize fire in Gaza strip. The
Sar-dog-shit (Sarkozy) and other human rights fighter have also shut their mouth. This is a joke, remember during the 3.14 Tibet riot, all these fighters opened their dog mouths to criticize Chinese
government and labeled Chinese military force's action as “oppression”. In the eye of these westerner, China has become a evil county. And today, the Jew launches air strike to Gaza,
and in three days, more than 300 innocent civilians have died in the war. Those dog mouths had shut up, so completely!
Chenglong also co-relates the Israel attacks on Gaza with the Tibet
issue in China by examining the Chinese government moderate position towards the military action:ä¸å›½å¯¹ä»¥è‰²åˆ-空è¢å"ˆé©¬æ–¯é‡‡å–冷眼æ-观的æ€åº¦ï¼Œå®žé™…上是在æš-示美国åŠå…¶ä»–国家（尤其是å°åº¦ï¼‰ï¼Œå¦‚果境外的è-独势力（包括疆独势力）对ä¸å›½è¿›è¡Œæ怖è¢å‡»ï¼Œä¸å›½å°†æœ‰æƒæ•ˆä»¿ä»¥è‰²åˆ-采å–一切å¯èƒ½çš„行动。
Chinese government adopted an observer position to Israeli air strike in Gaze against Hamas is a hint to the U.S and other countries (in particular India) that if Tibetan
independent sector (including Xinjiang independent sector) launched terrorist attack in China, the Chinese government will take action similar to Israeli government.
Compensation on
lifeHowever, a blogpost titled as “Israel is a good nation” occupies the highest rank in the Chinese blogoshpere (via google search), in which Zhengkoupinghei believes Israel is a good nation because of its monetary compensation on life: æˆ'就當å‰ä»¥è‰²åˆ-å'Œå·´å‹'æ–¯å¦æ²–çªè«‡è«‡å€‹äººçœ‹æ³•ï¼Œæˆ'的第一個觀點是，在信æ¯ä¸å°ç¨±çš„情æ³ä¸‹ï¼Œä¸è¦è¼•æ˜"下自己的çµè«–；第二，æˆ'個人的知è˜å'Œç¶"æ·å'Šè¨´æˆ'，以色åˆ-是個好國家。
Let me express my views on the current Israeli and Palestinian conflict. My first point, in this asymmetric information circumstance, it is hard to make a personal conclusion.
Second, according to my knowledge and personal experience, Israel is a good nation.
The blogger's impression comes from a story told by a senior governmental officer in Fujian province. ç¦å»ºçœæ"¿åºœçš„高官講了這麼一個故事︰
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A high ranking governmental officer in Fujian province tells a story:
A few years ago there was a terrorist car attack in Jerusalem and ten people were dead, including two illegal Chinese immigrants. […] Later, Israeli government started a conference and decided that the government should be responsible for the victims, regardless whether he or she was an illegal immigrant. The conference finally settled that the two Chinese victims should receive the same national treatment as local Israeli citizens.[…] A country with this kind of settlement to local and foreign victims, whatever you says, I firmly believe, it is a good nation.
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A few years ago there was a terrorist car attack in Jerusalem and ten people were dead, including two illegal Chinese immigrants. […] Later, Israeli government started a conference and decided that the government should be responsible for the victims, regardless whether he or she was an illegal immigrant. The conference finally settled that the two Chinese victims should receive the same national treatment as local Israeli citizens.[…] A country with this kind of settlement to local and foreign victims, whatever you says, I firmly believe, it is a good nation.
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